A weekly conversation with people who build things, ninety minutes long and transcribed word for word.
New every Tuesday at 5 AM ET. Hosted by Mara Lind.
the long table
The second factory
Noor Haddad builds heat pumps in Toledo. Her first production line shut down in eight weeks. The second one makes money, and she still owns sixty percent of the company.
Ten years in
Ruth Imani has drawn typefaces for ten years without missing a payroll. Licensing is the business, she says, and logo work taught her nothing she could sell twice.
Starting at 41
Ben Castillo left a job with a pension at 41 to make one chair, very well. What the first year really cost, and why every chair has a name on it before it's built.
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